Cinnamon 1.2 released

Cinnamon 1.2 is out!

All APIs and the desktop itself are now fully stable!

I hope you’ll enjoy the many new features, the desktop effect, desktop layouts, the new configuration tool, the applets, changes, bug fixes and improvements that went into this release. This is a huge step forward for Cinnamon.

We’ll follow up with documentation for artists and developers, and with a website for users to download, rate and comment themes, applets and extensions. For now, we hope you enjoy this new release as much as we enjoyed working on it. Some of the new features were requested by many people, others will come as a bit of a surprise. It’s a real pleasure for us to finally unveil the very latest of our favorite desktop and we look forward to receiving your feedback so we can improve Cinnamon further with each and every release.

Desktop effects

We all remember Compiz, wobbly windows and the desktop cube… some people loved it, others preferred a desktop with no animations. What was good with Compiz and Metacity though is that people had a choice to get exactly what they wanted. Cinnamon 1.2 is a first step towards reintroducing desktop effects and the ability for the user to define fancy animations or to turn effects OFF altogether.

This release features 2 new animation plugins:

  • Fade, which changes the opacity of windows
  • Scale, which changes their dimension

And 30 transition styles:

30 transitions, 2 animations and configurable durations means you can make windows appear and disappear in a multitude of different ways

For each animation you can also define the duration, so it’s easy to give your desktop your own unique feel.

This is how you configure desktop effects in Cinnamon

Desktop layouts

Another popular feature users “used” to have, was the ability to change the layout of their desktop. Some people liked their panel on top, others liked it at the bottom, and some even liked to have two panels for their desktop. In Cinnamon 1.2, we haven’t reached the stage where each component is independent and can be moved anywhere you like, but we added support for the most common desktop layouts:

  • Traditional layout (one panel at the bottom)
  • Flipped layout (one panel at the top)
  • Classic layout (one panel at the bottom and one panel at the top)

A traditional desktop layout

The "flipped" layout, with panel on top

A "classic" desktop layout, one panel on top, one at the bottom

Easier customization

This release introduces a new configuration tool called “Cinnamon Settings” and additional configuration options.

You can now switch themes, apply desktop effects, add applets and extensions to your desktop and configure some of the settings of the desktop.

There's already a few quality themes available for Cinnamon

Among other things you can now also define your own date format for the calendar applet and panel launchers are now editable and you can change their icon.

Applets

Cinnamon 1.2 comes with 5 new applets by default:

  • Accessibility
  • Recent documents
  • Removable drives
  • Trash
  • Display (XrandR monitor control)

Applets are probably the coolest new feature in Cinnamon, for both users and developers

Though they will eventually become something similar to what they were in Gnome 2, “Applets” are a new concept in Cinnamon 1.2.

To users they are optional parts of the desktop which come installed by default as part of what Cinnamon is and which place themselves in the panel, near the system tray.

To developers they’re a fantastic new addition. The extension system developed by Gnome Shell is not adapted to developing applets:

  • Because extensions insert themselves in the desktop, they interact with the Shell code itself and this potentially makes them incompatible with future versions of the Shell.
  • Because extensions insert themselves in the desktop, they have to define their own location
  • Because extensions insert themselves and don’t rely on any proper API, they can’t take advantage of a common behaviour and look and feel

In Cinnamon 1.2, applets are a particular type of extension. They’re specifically designed for extensions which add content to the panel and feature the following advantages:

  • They benefit from an Applet API and are trivial to write (as an applet developer you only focus on the content of your applet, everything else is done for you)
  • They’re consistent and feature the same common behaviours (a context menu, consistent styles for the applet container, tooltips etc..)
  • They don’t depend on a particular version of Cinnamon
  • They don’t specify their location or whether they’re loaded or not. In Cinnamon 1.2 they’re near the systray. In future releases the user will be able to move them around.

Eventually, all panel components in Cinnamon will be “applets” and they will be loaded the same way as “applets” written by other developers.

Developers are encouraged to only write extensions for advanced purposes and to use the Applet API instead for anything that adds content to the panel(s).

Improved main menu

The main menu was significantly improved.

If you search for something, the categories now become inactive so you don’t hover them by accident just to see your search results disappear.

You can now also simply press enter after a search and the first item in the search results gets launched.

The menu definitions are now handled by Cinnamon itself and the “Administration” and “Preferences” categories are back! :)

Under the hood changes

Important changes were made to significantly improve Cinnamon under the hood and these changes also mean we’re now going further away from any kind of compatibility with Gnome Shell.

  • Cinnamon now uses its own window manager (Muffin forks and replaces Mutter in Cinnamon 1.2)
  • Cinnamon is no longer compatible with Gnome Shell themes. It is possible however for a theme to define styles for both Gnome Shell and Cinnamon and to be compatible with both desktops.
  • Newly open windows are focused by default (instead of appearing in the back with an annoying “Your window is ready” notification)
  • Closing windows on an empty workspace no longer triggers the overview.
  • The overview was replaced by a desktop Scale plugin (similar to the old Compiz Scale). In future release, this plugin will be associated with CTRL+ALT+DOWN and a new Expo plugin will be mapped to CTRL+ALT+UP.
  • Bug fix galore (after this release, 130 issues were closed since the start of the project)

About The Author

Clement Lefebvre (aka "Clem") is the lead developer and founder of Cinnamon and Linux Mint. He's also involved in the MATE project as release manager.

290 Comments

  1. Never says: - reply

    A big thanks for the changes in main menu search behavior :)

  2. Absolutely fantastic !

  3. THIS is why Mint is the best distro, even the best OS, out there. THIS makes me almost giddy! Can’t wait to try it out! Clem, you are amazing!

  4. Bill says: - reply

    Easily a slam dunk as the best DE anywhere. Nice work to all of you. I’m on my way to donate again, no need to thank, I am thanking you.

    Bill Skiles

  5. Daniel44x says: - reply

    It’s great. I was asked myself is this version 1.1.4 or 1.2. I can’t wait to try

  6. mark s says: - reply

    Thank you, this is looking lovely! Great work.

    I have discovered one bug, in two panel mode the notification bubbles overlap the upper panel.

    I also wonder if there are any plans to introduce fixed window placement, like in compiz

  7. Luis says: - reply

    I have been waiting for this, and this morning I just turned on my laptop and seen a couple of update including cinnamon 1.2. And it looks great. VERY NICE JOB.

  8. revdjenk says: - reply

    Love it already… fixed many little bitty inconsistencies and anomalies I was about to comment on, but waited to see this version. (Of course, was expecting 1.1.4, so this was a pleasant surprise!)

    I am almost home, once again!

    Well, almost … now to replace your wonderful panel with AWN dock… hmmm will have to do a little reading, experimentation.

  9. Seiji says: - reply

    Awesome! Awesome!
    Thank you!!!

  10. Seiji says: - reply

    Woops… Forgot to mention this.
    Please add the option to rearrange the icons on the panel.
    It’s kinda annoying to remove all of them and add them back to the panel in the proffered order.
    I see that I can drag the icons now but they don’t rearrange.
    Thanks!

  11. dhor says: - reply

    It’s hard to believe … It’s fast, beautifully and simply.

  12. jatwood says: - reply

    Awesomeness… thanks for all the hard work to make the best distro better

  13. ethan says: - reply

    WOW! this is an unexpected amount of progress in a very short period of time. your passion and dedication are very apparent to me, and much much appreciated at this stage where all i want is a stable, functional desktop that acts like a desktop. cinnamon and mint (are you going to name another major component chocolate? :P ) give me hope, and verify why i am transitioning to Linux Mint from Ubuntu.

    thank you!

    • ethan says: - reply

      are there plans to improve keyboard-based window management and navigation? for instance, right now if I press the key to activate the menu, and type in a location, i can’t select it with the arrow keys. i also can’t select which window i want in the “overview” mode, etc etc. i would love for Cinnamon to be as keyboard friendly as Mint 11 is (or even moreso!).

      thanks!

      Edit by Clem: Yes.

  14. Kirk M says: - reply

    I’ve updated to Cinnamon 1.2 and so far it’s looking great but I have found one rather obvious bug with the Menu. I can’t add certain applications to “Favorites” from within the menu any longer nor by adding these apps via the “dconf-editor” (Org/Cinnamon) like I used to. In fact, certain ones that I had already added to “Favorites” disappeared after updating to 1.2. Some of these applications that can no longer be added to “Favorites” are; “Synaptic” (vanished from “Favorites” after update to 1.2), “Software Manager”, “Advanced settings”, “Backup tool” (non-mint), any of the Mint applications and more. I haven’t tried adding every single application as yet in order to find which apps can be added to “Favorites” and which ones cannot but I will later.

    Adding any of the above to the “Desktop” or “Panel” from the menu works fine though.

    As I said above, attempting to add the above apps to “Favorites” via dconf-editor also does not work. In fact, the entries of the above apps will be removed from “dconf-editor” (Org/Cinnamon) once Cinnamon is restarted.

    I’ve submitted the above as a bug report here: https://github.com/linuxmint/Cinnamon/issues/191

    Cinnamon is really shaping up nicely, a fine job so far!

  15. Kirk M says: - reply

    Oh, and thanks for taking the time to write up the above post explaining what the new release of Cinnamon brings. This type of info is one of the things that make Linux Mint unique.

  16. Mdyter says: - reply

    I really love to see how Linux Mint is growing day by day, month by month.
    all my best wishes are with you, Clem & Team !

  17. Burak says: - reply

    Mint – Linux done right.

    THANK YOU.

  18. fanys12 says: - reply

    Simply – it is the best desktop enviroment i´ve ever seen. Clem – you are boss! :D

  19. Guilherme says: - reply

    thank you
    i am watching the git and looking forward to a new release since i installed it
    it’s very good, i do believe it will be more successfull than gnome shell and unity
    cheers

  20. academo says: - reply

    Hi,

    Great update! :D I can’t believe its great.

    Only one terrible issue, software like Skype prompt a window ready status per message coming, this is horrible because if someone talk you while you are doing something else skype window get focus and disturb your other work.

    Could you please make a config for open windows on back (with old notification) or top?

    I didn’t know where put issues so I put it here

  21. Craig says: - reply

    Very nice improvements Clem in this new version…

    Just 1 bug i noticed…since updating to new version, the time on my panel will only show in 24 hrs mode rather then AM/PM time frame (for example: 13:40 instead of 1:40 in the afternoon)…and i have my time set for AM/PM rather then the 24 hours in the system settings application…

    For themes, perhaps you can add some extra defaults in the new Cinnamon Settings application (say…some of the most popular ones)…
    Also would be nice to have a web page where new themes and applets can easily be added on to your Settings application for easy selection…

    Otherwise…really great and keep it up! I think you are headed to bypass Unity and Gnome3 in providing the BEST customization of the Gnome 3 shell…

  22. Bill says: - reply

    I’ve tested all of this for a couple hours and can only find 1 bug, or at least one thing that doesn’t quite work right for me. And it is the same as in Cinnamon 1.1.3: When I maximize a window, any window, Firefox, Nautilus, Thunderbird, if I minimize to the panel, it will not maximize every time. Sometimes I have to click on the desktop first, then click on the program in the panel and it will maximize. In other words, instead of just opening back up, it requires a click on the desktop first. Not a big problem but that extra click will get to be annoying over time. This is with ANY theme even the default. It’s not my system because I have quad core and plenty of RAM.

    Love the desktop effects and applets and themes. You should include the dark-shine theme I uploaded it is really nice.

    Thanks again.

  23. Leonard says: - reply

    THANK YOU!!!!

    Cinnamon is now stable enough to be my default desktop! I still have a few glitches, but from what I understand those are mostly because of the proprietary ati drivers.

    At the moment, one problem I have with Cinnamon is that I seem to have lost control over my menu. Cinnamon has moved things around and I can’t move them back. When I open alacarte there is a very different menu.

    Another thing is that I liked the old overview(thank you for removing the icon). It provided both scale and expose features, and a way to add more workspaces. It was useful, although I would hate to be dependent on it…Gnome3. But you said expose will be added in a future release, so no problem.

    Edit by Clem: Yes. For Alacarte it probably simply uses the wrong menu files (the Gnome ones). We’ll look into this and see if we can provide a Cinnamon alternative.

  24. Wow! Just, wow! This is advancing Cinnamon on so many fronts… My second setup is running Cinnamon; time to switch my primary from LM11 ;-) Thanks for the work on this.

  25. Erwin says: - reply

    WOW, I am very impressed. So many improvements in such a short time. I love the effects. I feel just like a litte kid getting a big present. :) I fidn it truly amazing you’re developing this DE is such a rapid pase, this is truly Gnome the way I (and I’m sure many others) want it to be. Thank you Clement.

  26. Ingo says: - reply

    Great – and thanks for a desktop which respects the preferences of existing Linux users (currently with Gnome2).

    The update came in today for “Lisa”. One question: will Cinnamon be available also for Debian-Wheezy once ist is stable and released (spring 2013)?

    Edit by Clem: It works in Debian Testing at the moment and it will be provided to LMDE users when UP4 is released (it’s already in their repository).

  27. oliver says: - reply

    nice!

    i just installed 1.1.3 last weekend and i like it so much
    can’t wait to install the new version
    this will look good on my f16 installation

    still waiting for the Application, Places, System panel…
    as well as the alacarte equivalent
    i’m very old school and i this is very close
    thank you for all the hard work

  28. Liam Dawe says: - reply

    Looking forward to having the Ubuntu PPA updated!

  29. chassum says: - reply

    Love it so far, but ATI drivers still seem to be causing issues with panel on top.

  30. OEM quality! Nice! …. please update Ubuntu Oneiric repo

  31. Space out the icons at the bottom panel a little more and give them a glow on mouse over …

    Edit by Clem: Ask the artists for this, this is defined by the themes ;)

  32. Loving Cinnamon! Already using it as my default desktop environment on both Linux Mint 12 and Fedora 16 64-bit. Thanks for all your hard work! :-)

  33. Hunkah says: - reply

    I LOVE YOU!

    OK there, I said it. I’m not ashamed of my feelings. You have taken my broken heart (from Gnome 3) and made everything happy again.

    I can now promote linux again without fear of people running away from hatred.

  34. Mark says: - reply

    1.2 no longer provides the user a method to quickly glance at his workspaces or move windows between them. Will this be fixed in a later release? It certainly is inconvenient to rearrange windows among workspaces in the current release. For that matter, will there be on option to use static workspaces in the future?

    Edit by Clem: Overview is being phased out. It will be replaced by Scale and Expo. Scale is already there. Expo will be featured in upcoming releases. We’ll also move towards a fixed number of workspaces which you can change easily in the Expo plugin (similar to the way you open/close tabs in Firefox, but with the look of the Expo Compiz plug-in). In other words, the number of workspaces will be able to vary, but the creation/deletion of workspaces will be done by you, not on your behalf, and your changes will be persistent.

    • ethan says: - reply

      will there be a way to keep the dynamic workspaces option if we so choose? i kinda like that feature, actually…all in all, not a huge deal either way.

      Edit by Clem: No. You know the way you open/close tabs in Firefox? you’ll create/delete workspaces the same way in the Expo plug-in. Also, the number of workspaces you have will be persistent (i.e. it won’t change when you logout, reboot).

      • ethan says: - reply

        ok, so let me see if i understand what you are saying:
        the user will manually create and delete workspaces, but will do so “on the fly” in a more dynamic way, a middle ground between the old compiz way (create a set number of workspaces, even give them names, and pretty much leave them) and the new Gnome way (always leaves one extra empty workspace for you).

        so it (creating/deleting workspaces) will be an easy thing to do with a single keyboard shortcut or a mouse click?

        if we are understanding each-other, that sounds pretty cool, actually. nice middle ground, very functional :)

  35. Mark says: - reply

    Just one other thing regarding the scale feature:

    Ctrl-Alt-Up allows the user to summon the scale feature, but does not allow the user to terminate it, it is inconvenient having to switch from keyboard hotkey to mouse in order to navigate windows, will this be addressed? Along the same lines, the the hot corner becomes problematic and has to be disabled when the classic menu is used since the two buttons virtually overlap

    Edit by Clem: Yes. At the moment you can press Esc, but yes, we need to add CTRL+ALT+DOWN and CTRL+ALT+UP to close it. Also, at the moment you can grab the workspace with the mouse in Scale mode and access the workspaces beside it, which is inconsistent with the fact that CTRL+ALT+LEFT/RIGHT doesn’t work in that mode.

  36. Great work Clement! Thanks!

  37. One suggestion I have (if you haven’t already considered it):

    Now that you have an applet framework in place, it would really offer a big boost in functionality if an applet was made for compatibility with Ubuntu’s Indicator Applets (similar to to the old Indicator Applet Complete package). In Gnome 2, I use a number of Indicator Applet plugins that really make my panel incredibly useful (such as CloudSN for e-mail and other internet service notifications) as well as categorizing functions (like putting all messaging features into the messaging menu). I know some don’t like it, but I think it’s a great addition to my desktop. And I actually like the Me menu. I miss all those features in Cinnamon, but just adding Ubuntu’s Indicator capability should cover it.

    Edit by Clem: Definitely.

  38. Alex Omen says: - reply

    Holly (insert whatever word or profanity here)!!!
    This is becoming a very reliable and most importantly cool and effective piece of software.Hats off to Clem.Forget KDE forget GNOME slap this bad boy on your distro and get back you groove.And …i like it. :)
    +1 from me dude keep up the good work.

  39. zerozero says: - reply

    Clem,
    i’m surely missing something very obvious (as usual) but i can’t install cinnamon 1.2 in testing:
    http://pastebin.com/7B6xXdLb

    Edit by Clem: Hi Zerozero, don’t use the debs from LMDE. Get the source code for Muffin first, compile it and install the resulting debs. Then get the source code for Cinnamon, compile it and install the deb. Make sure to get the source codes from Git, and if things don’t compile perform “sudo ./autogen.sh” and “apt build”.

  40. jsnj says: - reply

    Since overview is being phased out, will hot corner(s) be available for scale & expo in future releases?

    Edit by Clem: There probably will be two configurable hot corners as well as CTRL+ALT+UP/DOWN key shortcuts for them.

  41. imu says: - reply

    just so u know ;) ) when I do right click on the ‘show desktop’ icon I’m getting an empty cloud above the icon.

    Besides Love Mint+Cinnamon already :) ))))))))))))))))

    Edit by Clem: Yes… we thought about removing this.. I’ll be honest with you, all applets have a context menu which in the future will let you “remove” and “move” them from/in the panel. These options aren’t there yet, but the context menu, as you can see, already is :)

    • A N O'Ther says: - reply

      +1 to remove this. It is in a very awkward location and with the default Gnome3 folder icon for desktop I keep mistaking it for the file manager. The launchers need to start immediately to the right of the menu. There is also another “Show Desktop” applet so it is redundant anyway.

  42. imu says: - reply

    Plus thx that u have stopped the blinking in MintMenu window I mean this changing it size was anoying.
    Plus thx that u have stopped the blinking in MintMenu window I mean this change the size window was anoying.

    Cheers.

  43. Paul says: - reply

    Very nice – can’t wait to try 1.2 as soon as the Oneiric PPA gets updated.

    The ‘gnome shell frippery’ static workspaces shell extension (with a small modification to work under Cinnamon) makes it possible for me to have known workspaces that I can assign hotkeys to. It would be great if the new Expo-like function will allow that without a shell extension (or, allows the extension to keep working).

  44. Mahen says: - reply

    Hi Clem & the others (?) !

    Thanks a lot for the amount of work accomplished. It’s definitely becoming a great efficient and easy to use desktop. Can you please answer to some of my fears, though ?

    1) do you plan to keep in sync with Gnome Shell and Mutter ? I mean, Cinnamon is possible thanks to all the amazing work done by the Gnome team (I love GS as well). In the future, if both projects divert too much, this will mean you’ll have to redo tons of things by yourself and lose the progresses made. What is your take on this worry ?

    2) oops, it seems you removed the GS handling of workspaces. I think it was really efficient to be able to graphically drag’n'drop windows to / from workspaced.

    3) do you plan to add a “vintage” mode with the old “Applications / Places / System” menus ? I can definitely tell you it would make a couple of happy persons ;-)

    4) Unity, KDE, GS teams and yourself are creating new APIs… This is useful for moving forward , but do you plan some kind of cooperation ? For instance, as Ubuntu is the de facto mainstream distro, many apps will support indicators, and gauges / informations embedded in the dock icons (just 2 examples). Do you intend to try to support / cooperate on some of those APIs ?

    As you can see, a lot of us appreciate your work ; our main concern is the fear of “scattering”.

    Cheers !

    Edit by Clem:

    1) No. If something nice is implemented in Shell we’ll consider adding it to Cinnamon. I guess the same goes for Shell developers, they’ll probably integrate some of our code into Shell as well. But to be honest, both projects are going towards opposite directions so I don’t expect them to be interested in most of our commits, and there’s very few commits between Shell 3.2.1 and the latest Shell we’re interested in either. The reason we forked Shell wasn’t to simply patch a few things into it, we don’t want the same thing at all.

    2) Yes, but there’s a better way to do it and it was already implemented and available in Compiz. We’ll write an Expo plug-in for this with a persistent number of workspaces.

    3) No, but we’re planning to make everything in the panel an “applet” and to give our own applets the same functionality, priority and importance as the ones developed by 3rd party developers. If there’s demand for it, the applet you described could even be included in Cinnamon by default.

    4) Yes, we’ll look into indicators. I don’t think the work Canonical did on indicators made it a de-facto standard. I don’t think Gnome Shell managed to convince developers to do without a systray icon either, and thanks to desktops such as KDE, Xfce and other DEs the systray icons have remained in most applications. There are a few apps however which need indicators. In Cinnamon it should be only a matter of having an indicator applet, or alternatively in interpreting indicators dynamically and turn them into systray icons.

  45. oz4me says: - reply

    Brilliant improvement on 1.2 Getting back to a way a desktop should be NOT the way we are told it should be…usable and customisable .
    A nice little feature that was in Mint 11 that is no longer available is the ability to right click on a menu item (say Pidgin) and click start when computer starts.
    But thanks again Clem and another donation on the way

  46. salam says: - reply

    Question on maintainability:
    As newer versions of Gnome 3 and Mutter are released, how will Cinnamon and Muffin keep up? Will they have to be forked again each time a newer version of Gnome 3 or Mutter is released? Could this cause conflicts in the future?

    Edit by Clem: We won’t be keeping up with Mutter and Shell. The pace of their development is slower than ours and they’re not going in the same direction as us. Since the initial fork we’re following our own branch and there’s no going back :) Shell was a starting point to something new, it’s not something we’re based on. In terms of conflicts, there shouldn’t be any. You can use both Shell and Cinnamon on the same machine, or one or the other independently. They don’t depend on each others.. Shell depends on Mutter, Cinnamon depends on Muffin, both depend on Gnome 3.

  47. rjrich says: - reply

    Thank you for your continued development of LM and its integration with Gnome via your implementations of Gnome 3 and Cinnamon. In addition, thanks for providing a direct-access forum without the need to register or enter a password. I would like to provide some comments on various aspects of LM/Cinnamon.

    Performance: Window effects aside, Cinnamon seems to be “snappier” than Gnome 3 or even Xfce. Assuming this is real, is it due to the underlying design and efficient use of resources?

    Menu: The menu is improving. I hope that it can be made customizable so that direct edits could be made to add/delete menu items, group them into submenus, and drag-drop items from the menu into the panel(s). As a scientist who uses a considerable amount of mathematics and statistics, I would at least like to see “Science” and “Math” categories as well as subcategories such as Biology, Chemistry, Physics, etc.

    Settings:

    Panel: Thanks for providing options for top, bottom, both, and autohide! Next, it would be very good to add drag-drop capabilty for adding, deleting, or moving panel items. It would also be good to add customization for the size of the panel (height of the horizonal panel), spacing of icons, and color and transparency of the panel.

    Calendar: Although the provision of a link to the codes is helpful, it might be nice to have full and intuitive customization built in. However, this is not a major concern. It would also be good to be able to select different font colors for the date versus the time.

    Overview: Thank you for making this entirely optional!!!

    Themes: The default Cinnamon theme is very good. However, I look forward to seeing additional themes and the ability to customize. It does appear that Cinnamon has “inherited” some theme elements from my Gnome3 setup. For example, I have selected Mist icons and these are showing on my desktop and file viewer, which I appreciate.

    Effects: Thanks for making these customizable and optional!

    Applets: Good start. I look forward to seeing more of these. In particular, a good weather applet would be good, perhaps similar to Meteorologist for the Mac.

    Other items:

    Notifications: These are good; I would like to customize foreground/background colors and transparency. For example, I happen to like semi-transparent black “smoked glass”, which I now have in my LM/Gnome3 setup.

    User name: I would like the option to have the user name (full or user-specified) show in the right-hand side of the panel and to include a drop-down (or drop-up for a bottom panel) with options for logout, restart, or shutdown.

    Overall, I have a very good feeling about LM/Cinnamon, which may obviate my need to make some compromises with Gnome 3 or to cobble together a strange blend of elements from Gnome 3 with, e.g., Xfce. Of course, the ability to do such cobbling is part of the essence of linux, but Cinnamon will allow me to spend less time tweaking and more time on my “day job”. Thanks!

    Edit by Clem: Just a quick comment about performance. We didn’t aggressively try to optimize the code or the performance. We were careful with our additions and treated resource usage with care. I’m not sure whether Cinnamon is actually snappier/faster than Shell or not, I didn’t benchmark them against each others. If it is, then it’s incidental and it might be because of some of the Shell functionalities and code we removed (in particular we removed a lot of code related to telepathy and evolution, and a lot of code related to the overview).

  48. Mahen says: - reply

    About Clem’s answer regarding maintainability : I must say I understand and am quite disappointed at the same time.

    Out of Kwin, Compiz and Mutter, I only get a smooth experience with Mutter. Now there will be an additional choice. Everytime I try something new and write / read bugreports, I can’t help but think that : there are many good ideas and good coders, but most projects seem to desperately lack manpower and testers. I talked about this with a couple of brillant KDE developers : they feel kinda lonely sometimes it seems.

    I can’t help but be saddened to see more fragmentation. All the more that, I was really reluctant to use Unity or GS. I hated them for a long time. Now I got used to them and, apart from Gnome + Shell, encounter many issues due to the fact they are not tested enough and lack people to code. I just hope those new forks are really necessary (that is to say : that there was no possible negociation with the Gnome team to make it easy for you to extend / modify the shell without forking).

    In any case : this is just the shell, it’s always G3 under the hood…

    Edit by Clem: As a distribution, and especially after the feedback we got from our user base on Linux Mint 12 and Gnome 3, there are features we need. We discussed with the Gnome developers, on separate occasions, when and how these features could be implemented and were told they wouldn’t. I’m not somebody who takes no for an answer and rely on tools who don’t perform what we need them to, especially when we have the resources and the skills to do the job ourselves. I won’t go through the discussions we had with the Shell devs and how we disagree on core concepts such as configuration (they want none) and user experience, I’ll simply point at something which speaks for itself: MGSE. This set of plug-ins received a lot of feedback and generated close to no reaction at all from the Shell developers. There isn’t a single thing we developed for the Shell, that the Shell developers considered adding to their desktop. At Linux Mint we have a big problem at the moment.. we’re in the process to tell our users they can’t run Gnome 2 anymore and we’ve got very little to give them in exchange. So we’re getting involved and we’re implementing what we need. In an ideal World, there would be no countries, no language barriers, no companies and only one big project. In practice people want different things, Cinnamon will be brilliant at being Cinnamon and Shell will be brilliant at being Shell. One desktop will go towards what we need for our distribution, the other won’t. In the end, and with the added competition and the ego of some developers, you might even see a boost in pace in the development of Shell. That means more options to people and when it comes to development, it’s not about how many developers you have, it’s all about passion. Cinnamon so far was coded by only 2 developers. If you know what you want and you’re passionate about it, it doesn’t take a lot of people to produce something great. If in the name of fragmentation you would have had these 2 developers persist and try to convince Shell devs to integrate things they didn’t want to add… we would have wasted time and produced nothing. Shell is not going to change its design. Its devs do not react to user feedback and they do not react to our feedback either. I’m not saying they’re wrong, but they’re interested in implementing their own vision of a desktop, and it’s definitely not something we want. Why would you want to force them to implement something they’re not interested in (they see traditional layouts as obsolete for instance) and for us not to worry about the problem at hand and ignore the fact that we need something nobody else (except MATE) is currently doing anything about? Fragmentation isn’t a problem. If people want something and we want it to, and if nobody is implementing it, then it’s pretty clear to me where our focus needs to go. If we still had the option to run GNOME 2, we probably wouldn’t be implementing Cinnamon right now. This isn’t just a new fun project, we’ve got a real need for a quality desktop in our next release and Cinnamon is amongst the very few promising solutions.

    • Bill says: - reply

      I suspected as much Clem, but it is nice to hear (read) you voice it. Years ago I programmed with Clipper and C for small businesses. If I knew they wanted something really badly, I would sometimes stay up for 48 hours coding, compiling, and testing. The toughest were making networks monkey-proof. You know, where no matter what key they press it is re-directed. :) I am very happy that you are as passionate about your work as I was. You have made many of us feel as if we matter; not easy to do in this age. I take my hat of to you sir. And I donate. Now, where’s my cup of coffee. ;-)

  49. Mahen says: - reply

    Thanks for the replies above ; I guess that answers to my last post too, so don’t bother ;-)

    Cheers !

    Edit by Clem: Ah well, too late now :) )

  50. cc11rocks says: - reply

    Loving the changes! One thing I found that doesn’t work 100% is the Chromium maximize button. It acts as though there is still room to go. Otherwise, great additions and revisions!

  51. rjrich says: - reply

    Again, thanks for Cinnamon. I should like to add a couple of points.

    Fonts: First, I assume that future Theme choices will include fonts. I have tweaked my Gnome3 setup with special fonts, which I would hope to use in Cinnamon.

    Panel icons: I mentioned this in a previous post, but I would like to stress again that it would be great if users could drag and drop panel icons. For example, I would like to be able to drag an icon from a menu or file viewer into a panel. In addition, I would like to control the relative position and spacing of icons. Position would be drag and drop. Spacing would be controlled from “Cinnamon Settings”.

    Thanks for considering these comments and suggestions.

    Edit by Clem: Hi. Yes, this is all defined in themes, fonts, spacing etc.. Positions should be done by drag and drop (it’s tricky to implement and we didn’t manage to include it in 1.2, but that’s the way we want it to work).

  52. Bill says: - reply

    I noticed after this update to 1.2.0 the entries in Mintmenu under “Wine,” have all been moved to “Other.” Any way to move them back? I use Goldwave and Getright.

    Edit by Clem: mintMenu is a MATE menu. Although they’re similar in layout/design, this is the Cinnamon menu :) I’ll have a look into this, but Wine is present as a category here for me on 1.2 (we even added it to our menu definitions).

    • Bill says: - reply

      Oops, Cinnamon menu. ;-)

      Yes Wine is a category, but now there is only “Browse C:Drive” “Configure Wine” “Uninstall Wine Software” and “Winetricks” as available in the list.

      The windows programs have all moved to “Other” category. In my case, “Goldwave” “Getright Download Manager” and “Notepad”.

      Edit by Clem: Oh ok. I’ll open an issue for this. Thanks for the feedback Bill.

  53. kneekoo says: - reply

    I love you guys! This release is fantastic! :D – although the desktop/shell just crashed during my post – but it got back with everything I had opened, even half of this post.

    By the day Mint 13 will come out as an LTS I can’t even imagine how awesome Cinnamon will be. :) Fabulous! :D THANK YOU!

    Edit by Clem: If most people enjoy MATE and Cinnamon and are happy to leave Gnome 2 behind we’ll have succeeded and achieved our main goal. That’s how good it needs to be :)

    • kneekoo says: - reply

      Clem, I can easily leave Gnome 2 behind with such a beautiful and carefully tailored desktop environment that Cinnamon already is. :) Sure, I’d like the bugs to be out of my way but I can honestly say that even as it is, Cinnamon managed to become if not first, the second best DE (by a tiny, tiny margin) in my preferences. It will only take some fixes, tweaks and improvements to become my all-time favourite and that’s because I love the idea of elegance with simplicity.

      For me there’s no need for Compiz with it many effects as long as Cinnamon can do it at a smaller scale, because when I Alt-Tab I expect the switch to happen instantly because most of the time I work at something and I enjoy my desktop working for me, not “performing” for me, and Cinnamon is snappy at that. :D Man… it feels like Christmas all over again. :P Thanks again!

  54. Mahen says: - reply

    Clem : thanks a LOT for the extensive answer. That’s definitely the kind of things you should write in a FAQ or pinned forum post as I’m sure it’s already been asked a thousand time ;-)

    I assumed the GS extension system would be something that would get more and more powerful and open in the future, and that it was just a matter of time. But indeed, if there is such a huge gap and philosophy difference, and if you feel what you do is really unique, then : way to go.

    Indeed, a couple of motivated people, from of such bonds, can do marvels. (for instance : Dolphin is mainly the work of one guy ; so is Gwenview ; so is KWin ; so are many good “human sized” apps).

    Forks / splits / choices, for the matter of it, are not good, but not inherently bad either : each case is unique (Does it bring something new ? Does it drain people from other projects or attract new ones ? Will it bring positive competition (emulation) or negative one (loss of motivation), etc.)

    But if that’s well thought, it has to be done ! Which seems to be the case.

    Thanks again for your long answer ! I’m amazed you took so much time to answer to your users !

    Edit by Clem: I get a lot of feedback in return, so it’s only natural. This blog is also relatively quite small so I can still afford to read all comments and reply to them. It will get harder and harder as it grows or when things get a little busy :)

    • Sergio says: - reply

      I view Clem in a very positive move.

      Some other well known project(s), with a nightmare of becoming a ‘de-facto standard’ for whatever, had entrenched a behaviour of ‘being the #1 at all costs’, which frequently meant not only doing things better but sabotaging initiatives that would bring improvements without restricting the scope of whom would benefit from them.
      I won’t give names only because I see that people are getting really fed up of this way of things (on all areas, BTW) and that it will disappear hopefully sooner than later.

  55. Mr. B says: - reply

    I’m blown away Clem. Totally amazing and i love the Cinnamon desktop a lot.

    This is what made me return to Mint since of yesterday. I’m back. Thanks you so much for the great, awesome work and keep it up.

  56. mark says: - reply

    please please please make applications places system applet :) Im running a bastardized version of natty just to keep gnome 2 right now but cinnamons getting there

  57. David stl says: - reply

    Thanks for all the hard work Clem love cinnamon just what I needed panel on top

  58. ozybard says: - reply

    Well done to all those who have toiled to push this concept forward so quickly. Cinnamon is now my primary desktop and I look forward to it’s on going development.

  59. v says: - reply

    Just posting my appreciation, your work on Cinnamon and Mint has changed my perspective on daily production with my desktop machine.

    A special thanks for fixing the window focus issue, I was going mad with all the extra clicks to get to windows and apps that I specifically already told the OS that I wanted focus on. Thank you. :)

    I would like to develop extensions for Cinnamon, is this possible?

    Edit by Clem: Of course. If the extension is about adding something to the panel though, we recommend developing applets instead. But if it isn’t, please let us know about your extension or if you encounter any problem developing it.

    • v says: - reply

      Very cool. I’d like to get this extension working:
      Static Workspaces ( Frippery -> http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/extensions/index.html )

      But so far, it’s a no go, what do you recommend for help resources? I know cinnamon is pretty new, but for now can we use Ubuntu or Gnome 3 api’s, because so far, I can’t get any extensions to work yet…

      Side Note: Dragging a file over a window indicator in the taskbar no longer switches the focus to that window, this worked in Cinnamon 1.1.3.
      (is there an official bug report area for Cinnamon?)

      Again, thanks for your work on Cinnamon. :)

      -v

  60. kev says: - reply

    You guys rock \m/

    In classic overview there’s search function where i can search for recent documents. Any plan to add this feature into coming release?

  61. rjrich says: - reply

    Menu: Will there be the possibility of using a tool such as Alacarte to construct our own menus and submenus?

    Launchers: Might there be multi-app launchers for the Panel where similar apps could be clustered, perhaps in drop-down (or drop-up, depending on top Panel or lower Panel) mini-menus?

    Thanks.

    Edit by Clem: For Alacarte it’s not a priority, but I don’t see why not. For multi-app launchers, that’s a really neat idea, thanks :)

    • rjrich says: - reply

      Clem, thanks for your replies to my posts. It is amazing and almost surreal to be able to communicate directly with the main developer of a major OS and DE, and a most refreshing change from trying to deal with Microsoft and Apple.

      Regarding the ideas for menus (alacarte) and multi-app launchers with sub-menus, I mentioned having drop-down (or drop-up) menus. In addition, I would suggest considering menus that pop out to the side to avoid having items scrolling off the top or bottom of the screen.

      Although I do not think I could ever use KDE on a regular basis, its menu organization is quite good and worth taking a look.

      Thanks again.

  62. Craig says: - reply

    I got the “clock issue” resolved with help from the response on the bug report page and also some very helpful people in the mint forum…It is such a great community here…

    When you announced Cinnamon it came as such a total surprise…i really loved it from the start and this newest version is even more improved!

    I thought i’d have to stay with MGSE but these is so much nicer, really…
    Not to mention…smoother and much more stable too…

    I’ve always been a big fan of gnome but was kind of getting frustrated with the direction both the Gnome 3 people and the Ubuntu people were taking with their new “directions” with gnome 3, especially in regard to seemingly ignoring their community base in terms of what they would like to see in their desktop designs…

    I was getting to the point when i was going to switch to kde as they seem more interested in keeping their base happy (even though i’ve never been a big fan of kde)….But i think Cinnamon on mint has “saved me” from having to make such a drastic move (lol)….

    Ubuntu was my first linux distro after discovering it (ran ubuntu 8 and 9 versions) but when i discovered Mint, i loved it’s out of the box experience and the look (panel on bottom w/neat mint menu)…started using Mint with version 8 and have been a huge fan ever since…

    I’ve tried other distros too but always seem to return here…
    Keep up the great work…i’ve made many donations and more to come…

  63. drum says: - reply

    Great work Clem, this is the future of Mint

  64. daslive says: - reply

    Excelente a probarlo!

  65. Great release! Just updated last night and love the improvement (especially the menu searching issue)

    But 1 thing I found missing is the drag windows to another desktop, previously we have desktop overview at the right of overview pane and we can drag the windows to the other desktop to move it but i found it missing on 1.2.

    Apart from it, everything is just slick and nice. I’m loving it already!! :D

  66. Estoy Realmente contento con esto, no habia instalado lisa porque no me convencia completamente ( soy usuario de mint desde gloria), creo que me quedo mientras con katya y esperare a ????? ,bueno me gustan los efectos de escritorio y la facilidad de uso que me dan, sigan asi y gracias… (Google taduced):
    I’m really happy with this, not smooth because they had installed fully convinced me (I’m using mint from gloria), I think I’ll stay with katya while and wait for ????? , well I like office supplies and ease of use that makes me, keep well and thanks ..

  67. Vladi says: - reply

    Hi,

    Right now only one word comes in my mind: IMPRESSIVE
    Well done everybody.

  68. RahulS says: - reply

    Great work done by the team! I have an idea of mixing the overview mode and workspace switcher. One can hover on the workspace switcher icon and all the workspace come together with beautiful animation in overview mode, something seen in Android Phones pinch to overview mode.

    Also beside search bar in Cinnamon Menu, add a Profile Picture space linking to a something that can be called as “Me Center”. It will have all the fuctionality of Cinnamon Settings, Appearance, Screen Saver, other functionalities available in Ubuntu-Tweak basically anything that a user can change as a part of personal preferences. All this can be neatly put into one center.

    In the notification area can the icons give some information on hover. Currently on system update icon gives info “Your system is updated”. It would be good if volume gave info like “Voume:30%” Network gave “You are connected on ___ Network” etc.

    Also as themes come up I wish the themes team come up up with more bright themes. Also the classic light background bar.

    Irrespective of the above the amount of work that has been done has been phenomenal and extraordinary. I read above that this has been done by 2 people and that makes the achievement standout even more. Cheers to you all!

  69. amnesix says: - reply

    Just thank you. Du fond du cœur.

  70. Luke says: - reply

    Thanks Clem for the great release. It is a great improvement. If I may offer a suggestion it would be nice to consolidate all the settings into Cinnamon Settings since as of now we have: System Settings, Advance Settings, and Cinnamon Settings each of which controls some of the same things and in some cases counter act the others. For example I was in System Settings and I messed around with the theme and ended up with classic gnome icons. To fix it I had to go to Advanced settings to set the theme right. You can see it can be confusing. A single settings application would be the solution.

    Thanks again for the great work and I cant wait for the next release.

  71. gaz says: - reply

    great for me. would be nice if the hot-key also showed other work spaces,or had an option to do so…

  72. Thank you.

    Cinnamon 1.2 is very good, especially for us older, UI challenged, types who think an Ipad is some form of feminine hygiene item.

    I changed my 92 yo dad’s machine over to cinnamon last week, he was happy. Now to see if I can get the wife’s Ubuntu 10.04 moving forward again – bigger challenge.

  73. Rainer says: - reply

    Cinnamon 1.2 deactivates manual entered menu entries which where added by “alacarte”. This program provides additional menu entries within gnome3. Most likely a minor flaw which I expect to be repaired within some following minor upgrade.
    In general cinnamon is an important approach towards improved gnome3.

  74. Is cinnamon 1.2 iso available ?

  75. chamfay says: - reply

    Nine, it’s a great work Clem.
    I hope to add support for right to left languages (arabic language) in next release.

  76. Fantastic.Awesome and stable.
    Credits to your work, Clem and team.

  77. Мне очень нравится данная оболчка в среде Linux. Но вы до сих пор не дали поддержки других языков. Росийское и украинское сообщество с нетерпением ждет полной русификации Cinnamon.
    Спасибо Clem, вы делаете большой вклад в развитие Linux.
    Удачи вам!

  78. Jordan S. says: - reply

    I just finished a biography about a remarkable innovator, a man who created and produced wonderfully crafted and engineered products, a real visionary.

    When I read Clem’s comment, “I’m not somebody who takes no for an answer and rely on tools who don’t perform what we need them to, especially when we have the resources and the skills to do the job ourselves”, and then took Cinnamon 1.2 for a spin, I was reminded of this recently deceased man’s creative spirit and his dedication to making great products.

    Kudos and congratulation to Clem and the Mint team.

  79. Patrick says: - reply

    Wow, just awesome. Caint wait to try it out.

  80. could u add a rrs feed to the news section? ;)
    if the cinnamon keys have the same mappings as gnome shell –
    i need the alt key freed for all 3d programs to tumble with the cam,under gnome 2 it was prefs->windows-> movement key set to super not alt.

  81. Tenchi says: - reply

    I also have the skype problem. Please fix it ASAP as otherwise cinnamon is just perfect :-)

  82. Can’t wait to get home and try this version… Great work.

    Besides implementing all the stuff required to have a sane desktop environment, you killed my pet hate bug: “If you search for something, the categories now become inactive so you don’t hover them by accident just to see your search results disappear.”

    Thank you very much :)

  83. René says: - reply

    I appreciate your work so much, thanks a lot!

  84. ulke says: - reply

    Great news. I actually thought I’d gotten used to Gnome Shell until I tried Cinnamon, which reminded me how much more efficient the “traditional” desktop is.

    I understand that you won’t “keep up” with Mutter and Gnome Shell, but what about Gnome? Will you try to ensure that Cinnamon is compatible with the current Gnome release? In other words, when Gnome 3.4 comes out, will those of us using a rolling release distro be able to continue using Cinnamon without problems?

    Edit by Clem: We can’t predict how suitable upcoming Gnome releases will be and what challenges they might come with. At the moment we’re planning to adapt Cinnamon for each future Gnome release (if needs be). If in the future it makes more sense for us to take over the layers we depend on, we’ll consider that as well. If we do so, you won’t have to worry about Gnome changes any more. Our plan however isn’t to fork Gnome at this stage but to adapt to it.

  85. Amazing Job Clem. Keep up the good work!

  86. rjrich says: - reply

    Icon selection and icon switching: It would be good if it could be somewhat easier to select and switch icons for applications and insert these into menus and panel launchers. This would be particularly handy for applications that do not have an assigned icon. For example, although I can easily launch “Xkill” from the terminal, this represents an extra step over that of launching it from the panel. In LM12/G3, there was an “X” icon already assigned when I put Xkill in the panel. However, in Cinnamon, when I put Xkill in the panel, there was only a blank square (invisible unless selected). By searching through various other apps, I was finally able to find a somewhat suitable icon, but this was not a very straightforward process. Thanks.

  87. dailyglen says: - reply

    Go Clem! Your project is the most exciting thing to come to Linux in year!

  88. jaycee says: - reply

    Many thanks and congratulations to you Clem! I must admit, I was skeptical that you and your fellow developers would have the resources to pull off such an ambitious fork, but you’ve surpassed all my expectations! Bravo! I eagerly await the time that I use it as my primary desktop! :)
    A quick question for a presumably distant future – will Cinnamon be developed so as to allow the option of using it on the Wayland display server protocol? If so, will such support be gradually developed as Wayland stabilizes, or will it only begin to be implemented once Wayland has published a stable release?
    Once more, thank you very much Clem for your tireless efforts to produce a beautiful, intuitive and highly usable desktop! Your work is very much appreciated! :D

  89. sluc23 says: - reply

    Cinnamon is great.. and has a superb perspective for the future of the Mint UI, replacing Gnome 3.X.

    I know Gnome Shell extensions are not supported in Cinnamon, but one extension i really like and it’s 100% useful (maybe the only one..) is “EXTENDED PLACES MENU GNOME SHELL EXTENSION”

    Any chance to have an applet or smthing similar like that in Cinnamon?? it’s the last push I need to move there for good.. cause that extension is really good (having places, ssh sites, filezilla, virtualbox and different actions in one click saves me a lo tof time!!!)

    excellent work!

  90. mrjive says: - reply

    This is *really* good work! thanks a lot, I think this is a right direction!
    Please, please, release a LMDE as soon as possible with cinnamon in it, can’t wait to try it! :)

    Thanks all of you guys.

    mrjive

  91. Oyabun says: - reply

    Under cinnamon, sound is very loud, can brake speakers, why is that?

    • Oyabun says: - reply

      What I mean its, even the bar level is very small i can already hear very loud. Don’t wanna try even in half way because the speakers will be dead for sure. Same happen under debian edition.

  92. bobby says: - reply

    Well Clem great work. Althogh speed in Cinnamon was already good, but as others said it has increased a lot. Frankly, I was the fan of KDE but after using MGSE and Cinnamon daily I started liking them (or may be its human nature to switch over after using a thing for long time, joking). And after this Cinnamon 1.2 upgrade, it is working fantastically. And to further tell the truth, most of the time I was using MGSE and just used to switch to Cinnamon occasionally. But after this upgrade, I don’nt feel like using MGSE any more.

    Thanks for replying to other users and making us uderstand the direction of Gnome and Cinnamon. We are with you.

    Edit by Clem: I’m not sure why it would be faster.. probably because of some of the Shell features we removed. In fact we spotted a little memory leak in 1.2 and we’re trying to fix it at the moment.

  93. rjrich says: - reply

    Notifications: These are good. If I might offer some suggestions for consideration, it would be nice if the notifications could perhaps resemble those of Growl a bit more. In addition, it would be good to have “persistent” notifications for “when you were away” that would disappear in a few seconds after resuming a session or upon clicking the notifications. Thanks.

    • rjrich says: - reply

      Oops! It appears that at least some of the features I requested for notifications are already present. My apologies for any confusion this might have caused.

  94. raghdi says: - reply

    I install cinnamon and it work fine.
    thanks for your great efforts.
    But is’nt work properly in arabic language (panel and window decoration direction is fixed).
    Many thanks.

    Edit by Clem: We need more feedback from Arabic/Hebrew speaking users and everyone who uses RTL languages (I don’t speak any myself..). It’s really hard for us to test the compatibility with these languages. Please don’t hesitate to send us screenshots when something is in LTR and should be inverted to RTL in your locale. Thanks.

  95. Robin says: - reply

    Excellent Clem! I cannot believe how far this has come in such a short time. I am curious how far you are planning with effects? Is it possible we might see something like wobbly windows and the magic lamp effect in compiz? That would make my day. Awesome work!

    Edit by Clem: Well I’ll probably never have enough free time to do things like these, but I’m sure someone else will add this to Cinnamon eventually.

  96. This is the best thing to ever happen to Gnome Shell. THANK YOU!

  97. av8r0023 says: - reply

    I’m happy for the Mint dev team. This is going in the right direction. Linux Mint is going to stand out as the distro of choice.

  98. This right here is the reason Mint is the best distro out there. I just installed Cinnamon today, and I must say, I am very impressed!

  99. Rovanion says: - reply

    Hi Clem,

    Did you pull the animation curves from the jQuery Easing plugin by chance?

    Edit by Clem: Hi Rov. I got it from John v Kampen’s blog (aka nepmak2000, he blogs a lot about Mint and Linux and posted about Tween transitions a little while ago). I searched for similar graphs and found a lot of them on the Web. I’m not sure which one I ended up using in this post though..

  100. Halil says: - reply

    Great work, thank you.

    I have a question though…

    How can I resize the toolbar(s)? Its too small for me and I want to make it bigger.

  101. IlanSh says: - reply

    Thank you for your amazing work!

    I have a little bug that interrupt me:
    I’ve used keyboard flags to indicate the current language layout.
    As you can see (from the following link) this feature doesn’t work:
    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/458856/Cinnamon_Flags.png

  102. Milan says: - reply

    Now, changes occur very fast here :) I like this, didn’t tried cinnamon yet but now I will for sure. I switched to KDE after I saw Gnome Shell, although I never liked KDE, I was amazed how much it is configurable.

    I see here user is listened and treated with respect, keep doing that and success is inevitable. When something can be configured, make that an option and users will appreciate that.

    What I don’t know/understand right now is connection with shell/mutter and cinnamon/muffin, I ditched kwin and I use openbox with KDE right now (and I have an GUI option to choose wich WM I want). How Gnome 3 connects now WM with the rest of the UI?

    Edit by Clem: We’re working the same way we do for Mint, feedback is important to us and we’re not planning on failing :) libmutter is a library used by mutter (which is just a test binary really) and gnome-shell (which is an implementation of a desktop using libmutter). libmuffin is a fork of libmutter. In terms of inheritance and as far as I know (I didn’t have an in-depth look at Muffin yet), Gnome Shell IS a Mutter and Cinnamon IS a muffin. Cinnamon could have been a Mutter as opposed to a Muffin, but it was decided it would be a Muffin instead for various reasons… mostly because of dependencies and integration :)

  103. rjrich says: - reply

    I hope it is not sacrilege to suggest looking at other DEs and adopting/adapting features that have proved to be aesthetic and/or useful. Whereas many of us might be using linux in preference to Mac OS X or Windows, some of us use one or both of these systems in addition to linux. Morever, while those on this forum presumably favor Linux Mint (and Cinnamon) over other distros and DEs, it still makes sense to learn from the efforts of others and incorporate features that can be helpful and attractive.

    With this philosophy in mind, I think it can be useful to look at some of the features from a relatively minimalist DE such as Xfce. For example, the Xfce menu has a clean design with intelligently placed “favorites” and submenus. It also appears to incorporate edits from alacarte, and it has a well-placed Help submenu and a logout item. With its highly configurable panels and applets, and the ability to use Nautilus and Synaptic, it is possible to set up a system that resembles Cinnamon.

    It is logical that some DE systems will converge and others diverge. I trust that Cinnamon will use “directed evolution” to learn and adapt from other DEs, adopting features that are useful and aesthetic while rejecting those that are counterproductive and ugly. Above all, because what is “useful” and “aesthetic” is defined by the user, I have faith that Cinnamon will strike that delicate balance between customization and resilience to tinkering, allowing its users to tweak according to their individual tastes without breaking the system.

    Thanks for your continuing work on LM/Cinnamon.

    Edit by Clem: Wise words. When an idea is good and suitable for what we’re doing we adopt it. It doesn’t matter where it comes from, who else it implementing it, if it’s good it’s good. Some people dislike the idea of reusing innovations made by Microsoft or Apple, and I’ve seen projects not keen on adopting new technologies because that would make them “look” like other projects. I’m not worried one bit about this. Whether it’s in Windows, in Mac OS, in other DEs or in any other interfaces, if you spot a good idea, please contribute it to us and it will be considered.

  104. Elmario says: - reply

    Good work, thank you.

    It’s nuce that there’s a central configuration tool and theoption to disable that annyoing hot corner.

    Now i think the next important step is adding some visual feedback, when hovering, dragging or clicking the panel icons (And the Drag’n'Drop itself of course ;) ) and a configureable Startmenu..

    Also, editing existant panel items and adding customizable icons (for targets wihout any proper icon) would be very useful.

  105. Jon Hulka says: - reply

    At first I was annoyed by the bouncy effect, so I came here to complain and discovered that I can change it. I also really like being in control of when the overview comes up, rather than inadvertently hitting the ‘hot spot’ or closing a window on an empty workspace.

    Well done. This desktop just keeps getting better.

    Edit by Clem: We hesitated about this in 1.2 :) The default animations are a bit “too much” to my liking and are likely to be reduced and more subtle in upcoming releases. As effects were just introduced we wanted to showcase them in this release.

  106. Matt says: - reply

    I’ve been using Cinnamon 1.2 for about a week now and it feels amazing! This is what Gnome Shell should be. There are only two things I’d like to change which Clem said he’d adress the first one.

    -Be able to move the menu bar to the left side of the screen. I’ve got a small widescreen so it’s a must for me.

    -Customize the super key to do the Gnome 3 window view (hot corner) instead of opening up the menu. Any key that allows me into this view would be very convenient. It was one of Gnome 3′s best features (IMHO only good feature) when I had +20 windows open I could easily move, manage and side by side snap them. Hitting the hot corner everytime feels cumbersom.

    And with that I’d like to say that this is so far the best interface to date. I usually extend compiz to do a lot of the tasks that gnome 2 lacked and this is shaping up to be simple yet intuitive interface. Keep up the great work!

  107. Sabbath says: - reply

    Y muffin funciona bien con los drivers catalyst?

    Edit by Clem: Si.

  108. Robby says: - reply

    Just wanted to say: “Thank you so much for your great work”

  109. Jon Hulka says: - reply

    “Panel Launchers now have tooltips”
    I have two monitors, one above the other. The panel is on the lower monitor, and the tooltips appear on the upper monitor. Just FYI.

    One other thing. When I flip through desktops, only the upper monitor changes. The windows in the lower monitor stay where they are. I actually kind of like it – I can keep nautilus and filezilla visible while I flip between my IDE and my browser on the other monitor – but I’m pretty sure this ‘feature’ isn’t by design.

  110. Matt says: - reply

    I take back the second demand. Hitting the super key is almost like opening GnomeDo. If you could replace ALT+TAB with the hot corner that would be even better. Thanks again.

  111. kdn says: - reply

    Cinnamon looks good, congratulations.

    Why the fork from Mutter?

    Having a common base, Mutter, for Cinnamon and Shell, seems like a good idea to increase stability.

    Breaking free should be done only with a good reason, not because “it’s a bit easier that way”… is there a good reason?

    Edit by Clem: Many reasons… that would be a long answer :) Gnome Shell doesn’t “use” Mutter, it IS a Mutter. If Cinnamon was a Mutter it would be a Mutter 3.2.1. If your distribution shipped Mutter 3.3, you would not be able to use Cinnamon with it. Because Cinnamon is a Muffin 1.0.0 and we provide to distributions both Cinnamon 1.2 and Muffin 1.0.0 and both of these don’t conflict with anything else we can make it so that people can run Cinnamon no matter what version of Gnome 3.x they have (of course there are other dependencies, on clutter itself and other libs, but that’s the rationale behind it).

  112. Eridger says: - reply

    Finally a fixed-width menu! Now if only we could have a menu editor… :(

  113. Eno Wijaya says: - reply

    I have just install it on my new laptop (HP 431). And it is extraordinary. Thank you very much.

  114. Gilles says: - reply

    Hi,

    I tested it and it is on the good way but I miss 2 features to install it (and leave Gnome 2):

    An applet to have “system monitor” in the taskbar to see the processor and network loads

    The expose mode in order to (w/o click or shortcut) see all the workspace as Compiz allows and move easily a windows or see “what is where”. As a new WS is created when an application is open, we could have a lot of WS (on right side of the taskbar) and to not have the expose mode lacks

    The second point will be present in a next release but for the 1st, I don’t know

  115. joe schmo says: - reply

    Can we get an applet similar to gnome-inhibitor-applet, to stop automatic screen lock? Or is there a way to do this outside of using an applet?

  116. Antonio says: - reply

    One suggestion: the panel should not auto hide when the menu is open. Other than that, good work! Can’t wait to see my desktop cube back ….

  117. Laurent says: - reply

    No any extensions are working for me on this new version. No weather, no dock, nothing.
    And they are still in 1.1.3, not in 1.2.

    (Ubuntu 11.10 – Cinnamon 1.2)

  118. Pacho says: - reply

    Personally, I would integrate this with a dock similar to “Docky” (or MacOSX one) and, then, use a top bar with that dock placed at bottom

  119. AleXioVK says: - reply

    Absolutely fantastic!!! :-)

  120. Rick says: - reply

    I tried to install the cinnamon-extensions files but ran into all kinds of errors and missing dependencies problems. For now I am just going to leave Cinnamon alone until it is in a more stable state and being able to add features is easier. For now I prefer and will use GNOME Classic.

  121. An drew says: - reply

    There’s an openSUSE Cinnamon edition ready to download at susestudio.com/a/jMOVxa/opensuse-cinnamon

  122. Craig says: - reply

    Clem: Yes, the desktop effects are a bit exaggerated (lol)…probably would be a good idea to change the default a bit for the windows open and close effects…

    Also, regarding Cinnamon Themes…will some of them be added by default to upcoming versions of Cinnamon?

    And, will there be an easier way to add new themes as they become available to the Cinnamon Settings?

  123. oimon says: - reply

    Thanks for this – looking good.
    However I tried compiling from git on Ubuntu 12.04 but some functions are deprecated in gtk-3.0. Is it on the roadmap to remove deprecated functions?

  124. chamfay says: - reply

    I tested Cinnamon 1.2 in arabic language it work but i found 2 bugs.
    One from the hot corner not working when i put the cursor in any edge (corner) and the overview icon fixed (not moved to teh right):
    http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/6084/hotcorner.png

    Second, the menu not popuped correctly:
    http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3310/menuys.png

    Thanks.

  125. Joe says: - reply

    Will Cinnamon eventually support Compiz (or have similar built in effects)?

  126. mutant22 says: - reply

    how do i change the notification bubble timeout? is it something in cinnamon itself, or defined in the theme? they tend to disappear before i get a chance to read them

  127. Question: what are the tiling capabilities of cinnamon? I would love a system where I can place individual desktops in “tiling” or “floating” mode, and have the tiling be real tiling (as in: new windows automatically tile, a way to increase main window size, an easy way to “promote” a window to main window etc.). Is something like this possible or planned?

    Thanks!

    An ex-gnome user who moved to xmonad out of frustration with gnome and kde tiling but who would love to move back to “shinyland” :-)

  128. Edgar says: - reply

    Wow, this is so great! I’m so pleased with such a great work!
    Keep the good job up!

    Altough there is one small problem I keep experiencing, my skype messages always pop up in my face, I’d rather like them to just highlight in panel :)

    • lukys says: - reply

      I also get this problem, as well as the problem of the icons not being in the right place in the taskbar but I’ve seen that one has already been reported.
      If Skype was such an annoyance, I would say Cinnamon was working essentially perfectly for me at the moment. I was so relieved to hear there was an alternative to Gnome Shell *shudder*. Keep up the good work, Clem!

  129. Dustin says: - reply

    Does Cinnamon have choices for window borders?
    If it doesn´t, will they be coming in the following releases?

    Personally, I don´t dig the “metallic” theme much.

    Or a choice for the user to configure the window border would be very cool.
    Text, buttons, shape, color, etc..

  130. Christian says: - reply

    Hello Clem

    Bravo for Cinnamon. It is brilliant.
    Can we reorganize the icons of the favorites ?

  131. Tim says: - reply

    Hi Clem & the Team,
    thank you a lot for your continous work for the best ジ Distro so I know why I stay with Mint since BEA :D
    Right now I have to use my poor LMDE with the aweful Gnome 3 & waiting for Cinnamon. In dual boot I use Lisa because G3 frize my PC I know it only from M$-W98 ㋡
    1 thing I changed quickly in GShell is the search with Google! I changed it to DDG.gg my N°1 search engine the last 2 years. I use the code of google.xml and changed it to duckduckgo.xml.
    Delete in ‘/usr/share/gnome-shell/search_providers/’ the file ‘google.xml’.
    Gabriel put it in the Help:

    the code is also at pastebin here:

    I hope you put this in Cinnamon as default search ;)
    cheers

  132. Mark says: - reply

    Excellent release Clem. Very fast, stable, and easy to use. Was thinking of moving to Unity, but have now changed my mind, and will be sticking with MINT – awesome work !

    Thanks.

  133. Djzn.BR says: - reply

    Clem, THANK YOU for this work. Seriously. You guys are the ones who are holding the ties in Linux Desktop. I sincerely hope this project and MATE stablish a solid foundation.

    Let Ubuntu become the new “Speak & Spell”.

  134. BETurner says: - reply

    Clem this release is awesome! I do have one question though. How do I go about changing the desktop wallpaper? Am I perhaps missing something? I am not sure if I have muffin installed or not.

    I’m running Arch, and fully up to date. I’ll see if I can poke around and see if there’s a muffin configuration utility somewhere.

  135. sdim says: - reply

    Fantastic.
    Bravo to Clem and the team.
    Evidently, Mint listens to the people.
    Great work, guys!

  136. Rhy says: - reply

    Hats fucking OFF! Seriously. Linux is broken, Clem invents Mint. Problem solved. Gnome 3 comes along and breaks everything that was once good, Clem invents Cinnamon. What’s next?!?! Making a VNC implementation that is better than RDP, VNC, and Splashtop? This guy is a god, people!

  137. Cary Clark says: - reply

    BTW, I’m running the AMD/ATI proprietary driver 11.8, packaging version 8.881-110728a-122950C-ATI

  138. Shred says: - reply

    Thank you so much! You’re bringing the fun back to Linux! Keep up your great work.

  139. Robert says: - reply

    Rats! I was really liking the previous desktop overview where you could easily move windows from one desktop to the other using a very intuitive visual workspace–where the current desktop was shown in the main area, scaled down slightly, and all of the desktops were shown in small scale views, stacked up on the right side of the screen. You could move windows between desktops, in true wysiwyg fashion. That was really cool. Now when I click on the overview, I just get a brain-dead view of the current desktop, and can’t see a visual representation of the others, and no obvious way to move windows between desktops.

    Either this is a bug with todays current updates, or a work in progress?

    I did read above a little about how the overview was changing, and something about a ctrl-alt up/down hot key thing. I’m not sure I understand–If I’m reading it correctly, I’m not thrilled about a combined modifier key combo–this programmer has arthritis, and besides, I have too many of those typist-unfriendly combos already.

    I’m hoping that the friendly visual interactive nature of the Overview comes back in some form or another. How about a mouse-able version that incorporates some of the concepts of the Awesome desktop? That would simply rock!

    (I’m relatively new to Linux, but Cinnamon and Mint 12 has pretty much stopped my distro hopping for now. I want to get back to programming.)

  140. Bill says: - reply

    For some reason my posts aren’t showing up. But just in case: I had to log into MATE to setup my printer (a simple cannon). I could not do it from Cinnamon, the foomatic gui said it was found and ready but nothing would print until I did it in MATE.

  141. paul says: - reply

    Cinnamon is undoubtably the way forward for Mint and Gnome 3 users.
    I’m loving this journey now; Gnome Shell nearly made me lose all hope but now I am constantly following your updates to Cinnamon!
    My main gripe would be – no compiz.
    Poor old Sam Spilsbury seems to a little deflated at the moment… could be a good opportunity to make Cinnamon the “killer” DE! (Just the ponderings of a compiz whore!).
    Thanks for all your hard work on this project.
    Just one question; what happens when wayland becomes mainstream?

  142. Fewt says: - reply

    Thanks for this Clem, you are really close to bringing GNOME 3 forward to the desktop we all enjoyed in early 2010.

    I may not speak for everyone, but I certainly do appreciate your work. I’ll continue to follow in hopes that it will be a good fit for Fuduntu.

  143. Derald says: - reply

    Thanks for the updates to Cinnamon. I am a happy Linux Mint user and experiemented with Cinnamon earlier but with the 1.2 changes I can use it full time now. Good job, keep up the good work.

  144. gnome3 says: - reply

    gnome-shell with preloaded extensions? wow, linux for the lazy.

  145. bobby says: - reply

    @Clem : Thanks for the reply. Technically I don’nt know anything about memory leaking. I got enough of RAM so its not a problem. Right now I am just enjoying Cinnamon.

    MGSE alt+tab and then alt+` looks good, hope the same may be introduced in Cinnamon also.

    I am just cutting and pasting my earlier request posted in Cinnamon 1.1.3 : In Cinnamon while using alt+tab, it shows application which are running only on current desktop, applications running on desktop No.2 or 3, it does not show them. But in MGSE alt+tab shows applications of all the desktop. MGSE alt+tab functions looks much better and more appealing when application on other desktop comes swiping on the main. If someone is not doing something nty this function looks good. No problems if you can’nt do it.

    Only system monitor, takes a extra second while closing.

    Regards

  146. I think Cinnamon is on it’s path to greatness. As development continues, I can see this becoming a leader among Linux/GNU desktop enviroments. I hope to see configuration tools designed to change icons, window themes, and mouse themes, as well as the themes themselves. Continue the great work with this and MATE. Maybe the two could merge into one powerful, yet easy to use and configure desktop. Keep it up!

  147. fdafsas says: - reply

    Change window decoration theme takes no effect.

  148. Craig says: - reply

    Clem: regarding desktop themes…will some of the popular ones be included in the Cinnamon Settings panel in future versions of Cinnamon?
    Would be nice to have a bunch to select from by default…just like we can select from a bunch of desktop wallpapers right now…

    Also, will there be an easier way to add newer desktop appearance themes as they become available?

  149. Brian says: - reply

    How does Cinnamon relate to the just general goodness that Mint 12 brings to the GNOME 3 desktop?

    Is it just a continuation of that work or is it something different?

  150. flan_suse says: - reply

    The presentation of Cinnamon looks very enticing! Because I could not get myself to enjoy and use GNOME 3 or Unity, I’m very excited to see the Mint project giving its users (and the larger community) a way to continue using the traditional desktop metaphor on the latest technology, providing user-friendly options to configure your own desktop.

    Is there a demo or live CD that we can test drive Cinnamon on?

  151. chamfay says: - reply

    When I minimize the copy dialog, i d’nt see the progress any more (link below).
    Hope your fix this bug.
    Thanks in advence..
    http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/3770/copydlg.png

  152. Dorian says: - reply

    What a work guys! Very nice!

    Just be more transparent on in which software code modifications you win money and this would be perfect!

    Edit by Clem: In Cinnamon: none. In Linux Mint: The policy is transparent, all codes are maintained by the distribution unless there’s a deal in place with upstream.

  153. zerozero says: - reply

    Clem, success! thanks a lot for your howto yesterday, it compiles in testing here http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=190&t=90277&p=532009#p532009 (with a big help from my friends there)

  154. Jo says: - reply

    For someone new to Mint, is it best to wait or should I install Cinnamon now and get to grips with Mint as normal.

  155. fladd says: - reply

    Very nice update!

    However, the text in the file/folder previews (by pressing SPACE in Nautilus) is still so dark that it is unreadable! Is this a known issue?

  156. fladd says: - reply

    Great new version!

    However, the file/folder preview (when hitting SPACE in Nautilus) still shows a too dark font, such that the text is not really readable. Is this a known problem?

  157. Kirk M says: - reply

    I don’t believe there’s a place to submit “bug reports” about the website itself so how about a couple of suggestions?

    There should be an RSS feed for the overall site (posts), not just an RSS feed for individual comment threads on any particular article.

    A “Subscribe to Comments” type plugin that sends an email notification (opt-in of course) when new comments are posted would be great. Minimal resources used to do this.

    If there’s somewhere else I need to post this please let me know.

  158. jesse5567 says: - reply

    like the idea of the MRU applet
    Thanks Clem & Team

  159. Hi, will Cinnamon work without 3D driver support? I do not want my desktop to depend on buggy, complex 3D drivers. In other words, will Cinnamon work with VESA like Gnome 2.x used to do without any problems? Thanks!

  160. Mark C says: - reply

    Amazing work – this is exactly what Gnome 3 should have been ! Keep up the good work. Been using Cinnamon since it’s early Alpha – it was great then, and just keeps getting better !

  161. revdjenk says: - reply

    For everyone here enjoying the work of Clem and the other devs on Cinnamon and LinuxMint, go over to the linuxmint.com site and put some of your “green” into the Mint Donate icon.

    Thanks Clem!

  162. Jacek says: - reply

    Any idea as to when this will be coming to LMDE? I would love to try it out there….

  163. alindt says: - reply

    Is there any documentation applet development, APIs, differences between applets and extensions, etc? If not, will there be?

  164. I really really liked it. I hated Gnome 3 and Unity. I was using mint 12 with Mate wich was the best i could get.

    Thank you a lot guys!!

  165. Craig says: - reply

    Clem: regarding desktop themes…will some of the popular ones be included in the Cinnamon Settings panel in future versions of Cinnamon?
    Would be nice to have a bunch to select from by default…just like we can select from a number of desktop background wallpapers right now…

    Also, will there be an easier way to add newer desktop appearance themes as they become available in the future?

  166. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

    I’ve been using Cinnamon for a few weeks now, and it’s a huge improvement over Gnome 3. Having my panel at the top is a huge benefit for me because I often miss IMs since I’m not often looking at the bottom right corner of my desktop.

    Looking forward to the next release!

  167. Cinnamon works great and is very usable. Thank you.

  168. double says: - reply

    mint is far the best distro. by far.

  169. Sylvester says: - reply

    Hi. I was wondering: What are the default fonts that come with this?
    Because, I’m using Ubuntu at the moment, and everything in gnome-tweak-tool is set to Ubuntu mostly. How should it be set?

  170. Bill says: - reply

    Wow, I’ve been trying for 3 days to post. Thank you Kirk for letting me know I have to register. ;-)

  171. Andrea says: - reply

    Cinnamon is definitely my choice, but I have some troubles in customizing the Menu.
    Before upgrading to Cinnamon 1.2, I used to have the “Science” folder in the Main Menu. Now it is disappeared, and I can’t figure out how to make it appear again (the settings in “Main Menu” simply have no effect). What’s going on? What’s happening? How can I fix this? Thanx

  172. rjrich says: - reply

    I have encountered some problems with Cinnamon:

    1. Menu: often unresponsive (will not open). When open, it is sometimes too responsive to cursor movements (lose the submenu; reverts to complete menu) or it freezes. Because of these issues, I have been using Application Finder (from Xfce), Gnome-Do, or the command line.

    2. Scrolling in LibreOffice Writer: screen goes blank; when it returns, the panel is gone, making it necessary to logout/login to restore the system.

    Otherwise, Cinnamon appears to be working well. I am looking forward to future releases that will presumably have enhanced stability and customizability.

  173. Phnom Penh says: - reply

    With no more hope to run a decent speed with the KDE nightmare (even 4.8) I gave a try to Cinnamona. Surprising, efficient, clever! and my box is no more a lazy dog… Productivity is boosted by a tenfold, computer keeps silent and does not heat. And it answers with no delay to any keystroke or mouse move. Cinnamona gives a feeling of mastering the computer which is a pleasure I did not experimented since KDE3
    Just miss one or two comfort tools (network activity, adding some appli to the menu bar). Anyway Cinamona is adopted and I am happy not to end as the last stupid KDE user (KDE ayatolas only are not stupid and know what a Desktop should be and how users (all unconstructive and despictable) should use it..).
    Thanks for this clever user-oriented desktop. Will help the buzz and make it known in Asia

  174. will be possible to have something like dockbarx in future?

  175. flan_suse says: - reply

    The presentation of Cinnamon looks very enticing! Because I could not get myself to enjoy and use GNOME 3 or Unity, I’m very excited to see the Mint project giving its users (and the larger community) a way to continue using the traditional desktop metaphor on the latest technology, providing user-friendly options to configure your own desktop.

    Is there a live CD or USB that we can test drive Cinnamon on?

  176. Peter M says: - reply

    Great job, many thanks.

    Will it be possible to add a left hand panel as in Classic? I find the left panel very useful on a wide screen in addition to top and bottom.

  177. Brandon says: - reply

    Yes at last I will be able to have my full screen back and the simplisty that I loved about Gnome 2! Unity helped compensated some with global menu, but the “start menu” aspect is more incoviented, bulky, and no simple menu option.

  178. Orographic says: - reply

    I love Cinnamon 1.2. Congrats to Clem and all for the wonderful work that is being put into it. I had to resort to Lubuntu (which is still good indeed) as Unity is not my thing and KDE was still buggy on my first gen core i3 system.

    Cinnamon via Mint 12, is just great. I’ve decided to use it full time now, to give it a real test. I run a few websites and will give it a good workout every day.

    Main issue for me is: Need a way to increase the program icons on my bottom panel, and indeed make the bottom panel a bit bigger. On a 24″ screen, the bottom panel and those program launching icons are pretty small.

  179. Orographic says: - reply

    Not sure why my previous post didn’t get posted here…

    I love Cinnamon 1.2, congrats to Clem and the team, its just a great alternative to Unity and Gnome 3, which are both below par, IMO. I’ve been pretty much full time with Linux since early 2008 and loved Ubuntu initially but Unity pushed me away.

    Lubuntu is fast and snappy but I’ve always loved Mint and am now using it full-time via Mint 12, to give Cinnamon a good workout. If we can make it possible to increase the size of the program launcher icons on the bottom panel (and also make the panel bigger) it will be just about a perfect desktop.

    Thanks again everyone, Cinnamon is indeed, sweet and tasty. Thanks for listening to the users!

  180. Tom_W says: - reply

    When I first saw Cinnamon I thought that by going away from the Gnome 3 shell you were moving in the right direction. With Cinnamon 1.2 I know you are. This is quite an improvement on the last release and I’m sure it will create quite a stir not only in the Linux Mint community but in the larger Linux community as well. If improvements continue at this pace Linux Mint 13 will be, without question, a grand slam home run. Giving the world a viable and polished alternative to the Gnome 3 shell could have far reaching ramifications. I am now really anxious to see what comes next. Well done Clem.

  181. abvasili says: - reply

    Reading this, makes me feel like a kid in front of a candy that cannot eat.

    I still have the issue of my uefi bios. (lenovo x120e) The grub is not loading the os after installing the system! Ubuntu works ok, but linux mint is a no go for me. And I do not want to try cinnamon on ubuntu.

    I’m jealous of your possibility to use and enjoy cinnamon with linux mint!

    I hope I will enjoy this some day!

    abvasili

  182. Bandi says: - reply

    Absolutely brilliant, end of the pain and suffer gnome shell and unity caused!

  183. Gw says: - reply

    Hopefuly in by 2050 you will be able to install programs as easy as windows — Run —- save —– it’s got to be that easy – repositories ?

  184. Looks brill :)

    1 question, can the close button be moved to the left hand side of the window – been trying for hours lol

    Thanks for all the work

  185. Dimbas says: - reply

    > Newly open windows are focused by default
    That is really, really annoying thing for me. I hope, in future releases this feature could be turned on and off.

  186. anto says: - reply

    Reintroduce the workspace management like Shell (or better like previous Cinnamon’s version)!!
    Now it’s impossibile move the windows across wokspaces! :(
    PLEASE!

    • I have to agree with anto, workspace management was one of the very few things I did like about Gnome Shell. That said, I’m sure Clem has a plan, so maybe I’ll just patiently watch and wait.

    • I too agree. I would like to have the workspaces and windows under one overview.
      Was nice to manage windows and workspaces under one overview.
      You could even use the scroll wheel to scroll thew the workspaces on the right very quickly.
      You could even launch programs from the menu while in the overview.
      No jumping from one overview to another like I have to do with compiz.
      I know scale is a plugin and expo plugin is to come.
      So we should be able to enable and disable these plugins.
      It would be nice to have a scale + expo plugin (old overview) also.
      It was looking good with clem cleaning it up.
      It would be nice to be able to put the hot corner wherever.
      Please bring back the windows + workspaces overview.

  187. bukl says: - reply

    theres a bug when watching a flash stream full screen, if the flash stream has a max/unmax button in the bottom right of the full screen stream, click that and the click somehow goes thru the flash and hits the workspace switcher instead, so it looks like the stream has been closed but its just on another screen

    • Yes I have this bug also.
      It is like the panel is invisible.
      I can get the calender, menu, etc to pop up while flash is in full screen.
      Flash controls are not easy to access, very few pixels at the top to find and esc button on keyboard does not work to leave full screen.
      Only thing is it does not happen all the time and am not sure what triggers it.

      • Filipe says: - reply

        I have the same. If I lock the screen the right monitor triggers the chrome to be in full screen and I cannot leave the full screen mode with F11 or clicking on it. Any tips?

  188. Orographic says: - reply

    Gw said: On January 31, 2012 at 1:55 pm:

    ‘Hopefuly in by 2050 you will be able to install programs as easy as windows — Run —- save —– it’s got to be that easy – repositories ?’

    Why? That is the major reason Windows has so many security breaches. People just install stuff and are often vulnerable to attacks.

    Linux isn’t Windows. We don’t want it to be like Windows, you can use Windows for that.

    Apart from being unable to change icon size on the bottom panel, I notice you can’t add more than about ten favorites to the menu, otherwise they seem to disappear.

    Very happy with progress though. Considering Cinnamon is still in development, its a great step forward with 1.2

  189. Tom_W says: - reply

    @GW “Hopefuly in by 2050 you will be able to install programs as easy as windows — Run —- save —– it’s got to be that easy – repositories ?”
    You say installing programs on Windows is easier compared to the use of repositories in linux. Is it? Maybe in some ways, but is it devoid of problems? You might be surprised to learn that the linux way of using repositories for software management has a number of advantages over Windows. I suggest you go to page 35 in the Linux Mint Users Guide and read that section about Package Management in Linux Mint. It clearly explains the numerous advantages of repositories.
    One advantage it doesn’t speak of is the speed in updating programs in a rolling release distro. Hundreds of programs can be updated with only a few mouse clicks. Windows users can only dream of doing that!

  190. It’s planned some feature as Smooth Task as KDE or KdockerX on classic GNOME to show window previews on task bar?

  191. John says: - reply

    I have two feature requests…

    First would it be possible to have a search bar in the screen that appears when you scroll over the top-left corner? (Not sure what the name is.) So that it’d be easy to start programs from their.

    Also I like having two panels, one at the top and one at the bottom; but I like having the menu on the bottom panel. Are there any plans for custom layouts like that later on?

    Thanks so much!!

  192. I’m using Cinnamon as my shell of choice now. Nice work! I do miss the behavior of the old Gnome desktop pager though. I’m running dual head, and if you select a new desktop on the pager, just one of the displays is updated. I didn’t see where to file a bug report…

  193. Givvi says: - reply

    Guys this really need to be a replace for Gnome 3 Fallback mode, but Gnome 3 shell is different so merge instead of diff.
    It’s better. IMHO

  194. Hello,

    great work, but the menu does not fit to the netbook screen anymore.

  195. piotr says: - reply

    Hello Clem!

    Nice and great work with Cinnamon! Big and warm “thanks” and greetings from Polish linux community!
    Please, tell us when you enable the localization/translation possibillity in Launchpad/Rosetta? We need it! The linux mint hegemony is at arm’s length! :-)

  196. Orographic says: - reply

    I am not getting the fullscreen Flash bug on my machine at all. I have a first generation core i3, H55 chipset. Actually, I’ve never seen Flash so beautifully smooth, even Windows 7 can’t do as good a job as this.

    This is the video i tested in, as its a high quality tennis video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yI-VXWmk7s

    Are some folk still having the flash issue?

  197. mitweeeeh says: - reply

    Bravo les gars,
    vous êtes vraiment sur une excellente voie. J’ai adopté.
    Respects.

  198. Great work on cinnamon thus far. it would be great to have some kind of guide for converting gnome shell extensions to cinnamon applets.

  199. pablo says: - reply

    I have problems adding new themes to Cinnamon 1.2 (I have all themes compatible with this version). I’ve copied to folder ‘~/themes’ directory and also in usr share themes but in Cinnamon settings i still see only one default theme Cinnamon…

  200. Abi says: - reply

    hi my dad has asked me to have a look at cinnamon 1.2 running on mint 12.

    I like the effect that is used when the window is opening and closing.

    I gone for the classic look it is very easy to find things.

  201. Ben R says: - reply

    I gave up on linux as a teenager in the 90s after several frustrating weeks wrestling with an early red hat distro. While searching for a less resource-intensive alternative to Windows 7 Starter for my netbook I stumbled on mint and I am really loving it so far! I am running mint 12 on my laptop and mint 9 xfce on the netbook.

    I like both cinnamon and the MGSE environment with mint 12. I noticed only noticed one minor bug with cinnamon, I don’t seem to be able to switch to AM/PM time when using the lower panel desktop even after reloading the shell.

    Great work and I hope to donate soon!

  202. Dylan says: - reply

    Hi Clem,

    I tested Cinnamon today… seems nice but it totally fails after playing a game. I played a game, I quit… desktop starts flashing and sometimes flashing blue. Clicking on logout didn’t work so I had to power down my PC by the button.

    I won’t be sticking with Cinnamon unless it can handle games or apps with 3D acceleration.

    Tested on Ubuntu 11.10 32bit, Nouveau driver.

    • chris says: - reply

      Not sure if it’s related, but I also see the flashing blue when I vnc into the desktop. It usually happens when I put my cursor anywhere on the bottom panel.

  203. David stl says: - reply

    Thanks for all you do the work you or doing I really think it is the only thing that will save gnome. I did try gnome 3 and I did get it to work for me but I really just shop and look on the web for thing but even that was hard to do with gnome3. Cinnamon gets me back where I can find what I need to do other things other than looking on the web and shopping really miss the old menu bet some thing must change.

  204. Danny Cook says: - reply

    Would it be possible to selectively autofocus new windows? For example, I could be in the middle of a game and someone IMs me, and the IM window steals the focus. I’m used to the GNOME 2 behavior with this, which is that the window would ask for attention. I could then use a keyboard shortcut set with a (Compiz) plugin to focus the next attention-seeking window. This makes more sense to me – I would greatly appreciate if there were an option to revert this behavior.

  205. demetrio says: - reply

    Hi, I have a big problem!!
    Ubuntu 11.10, Cinnamon 1.2, two users in my account, clean (fresh) installation of everithing.
    First I logon with the user A, then I lock PC and I unlock logging in with the user B. Then I logout user B (not locking) and I try to logon with user A, but:
    - I see the app windows, but no title bar
    - I don’t see Cinnamon bars
    - I don’t remember key shortcuts, but ATL-TAB, ALT-F4 and more didn’t work, CTRL-F4 on Firefox works (closing tabs) as well as right click

    It seems like Cinnamon stops on user logout, even if another user is using it. It could be correct if the second user preferes Unity, for instance, but the routine should check it before…

  206. wuts says: - reply

    so is cinnamon going to be the new de for mint distros in the future? sounds like we have a winner here for people not wanting to be forced into accepting the alternatives of gnome 3, unity. mate seemed sluggish to me on my system, so i would like to see something like this blossom into a full on mint distro. I keep saying we should back away from ubuntu, and this may be the time, to take direct advantage of cinnamon and continue with something along the lines of a debian/cinnamon distro.
    thoughts?

    regards

    Wuts

  207. Orographic says: - reply

    Any news on the next update for Cinnamon? I’ve used 1.2 since release without any crashes at all. There are the known bugs but apart from that its been very stable.

    Would love to know if they are introducing a re-size and also move icon option for the bottom panel? They are hard to view on a 24″ screen at their current size.

  208. Vittorio.UA says: - reply

    Hi, everybody!
    Just couldn’t keep myself from writing a few words. I’m new to Linux and Mint 12 is my first distro. After Cinnamon 1.2 released I realized I that I’ve made the right choice by installing the best Linux distro ever. I want to thank you for your hard work Clem and awesome results.

    Also wondering about possibility to assign labels to selected desktops.

    Thanks again and take care.
    Regards,
    Vittorio

  209. kneekoo says: - reply

    Well, over two weeks have passed since Cinnamon 1.2 was released and you guys have been quite helpful fixing bugs all this time. Can you at least estimate a release date of the next package? Pretty please? :)

  210. jb says: - reply

    Wicked! Thank you for this. Gnome & Unity destroyed my world. All I need is static workspaces back and I will be able to work again! Keep up the greatness!!!!

  211. overdarkm says: - reply

    which program should I use to record?

  212. Mario says: - reply

    I love Cinnamon. It’s exactly what I have been looking for. I could not get used to GNOME3. I used to use GNOME2 all the time. I like KDE, but it’s a bit slower than other DE (check Phoronix benchmarks if you disagree). Unity is okay but not my thing, so when I tried this on Arch, I fell in love.

    The main thing I can think of, is creating your own login manager as well. Currently I am using GDM, but the GDM theme is such a stark difference to Cinnamon.

    Thanks for your efforts. :)

  213. Mario says: - reply

    Also, another idea. Applets, extensions, themes should be able to auto update. That would be really cool. :)

  214. dagrunge says: - reply

    thanks for your work on cinnamon!!!

    i was afraid, that every desktop is mutating to an “iPad” environment :(

    i really don’t like those screentoucher designs!

  215. Adam says: - reply

    Thanks for Cinnamon!
    It is amazing how much work goes into Linux Mint.

    I only wish that the menu can be controlled exactly as it was in LM11, at the moment the entries do not show where I put them, especially WINE entries.
    It is difficult to move them, there are many duplicates.

    Thanks

  216. TuxHat says: - reply

    Ok i got the lastest Cinnamon 1.2 from the AUR git package and its looking alot better nice that it now has windows border, but its buggy as H*LL because i tested it out i got shell freeze up when u apply new applets it does not show up…. any solution muffin team ?

    here is my youtube review check it out.. i love the new shell kudos eh the best with gnome and xfce feature and the gnome shell look must say amazing idea i love the WM my fav over all no joke, but its still buggy u know so i don’t use it.. any idea for a fix so i can test it and use it without a freeze up ?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjGnzJ-hQXk&list=UUqGm48NKm52ph_st3w5lgmg&index=1&feature=plcp

    thats what i got and live show of my actiojn with clover flow not responsive and the applets not showing up AT all pretty c*appy eh…. so give me some feedback on howi i can use this without a conflict .. if it was more stable i would be on it now but now im on gnome shell :[

    –Cheers
    TuxHat

  217. Divius says: - reply

    Great project! But where is your bugtracker? I cannot get Cinnamon running on my Lubuntu Oneiric laptop. I select “Cinnamon” session, enter user name and password, and … it asks for user name again.

    And one more issue: it pulls half of gnome when installed without –no-install-recommends. And more: if installed with –no-install-recommends, it crashes (I used cinnamon –replace) as it requires (not recommends) gnome-themes-standard (not gnome-themes)

  218. Cinnamon is the way users will go back to Linux on a Desktop… Gnome, Unity, KDE… No way.

    Thanks!

  219. Bamm says: - reply

    I like the old MintMenu better than the Cinnamon Menu. Is there a way to use the old menu, or is there an effort to port it into Cinnamon?

  220. Orographic says: - reply

    I have to say Cinnamon 1.2 for me has been running nigh on perfectly. A few times I’ve had the calculator pop up when clicking on menu but other than that it has been incredibly stable on my H55 core i3 first gen with on chip graphics.

  221. Cinnamon is exactly what a desktop should be. Gnome 3 and unity is a mess!

  222. Jos says: - reply

    Hi,

    tried cinnamon 1.2, and this shows promise. One problem for me is the braindead gnome idea of one workspace more when they fill up. I need a fixed number of workspaces, not this sliding madness. Fix this, and I’m sold to cinnamon :-) .

  223. Baatezuu says: - reply

    I just happened to install Cinnamon again after installing Ubuntu 12.04 Alpha 2. I like to help the little bit that I can by testing new Alpha and Beta editions when I can. Living life dangerously I guess, installing a Alpha DE on an Alpha operating system. So far it has worked flawlessly.

    I have to say though I didn’t realize what I was getting when I installed Cinnamon. I have been keeping my eyes peeled on the blog that pops up on the lisa homepage for more news of Cinnamon. I did not realize you were keeping a second blog about it here. I would highly suggest that you update the Lisa blog disscussing the changes to Cinnamon because I’m sure you could reach more people that way and get more testers.

    That complaint aside I have to say Holy Spices Batman, this is good, nay great. I was blown away when I first login to my new Cinnamon-session. I was expecting 1.1 which is what I ran last time I tested it, but what I got was a metric crapton of awesome instead.

    Don’t get me wrong Cinnamon 1.1 was definitley better than Gnome-shell but going from 1.1 to 1.2 is like the difference between Windows 95 and Windows 7. Great work keep it up, I can’t wait to see what you do with it for Mint 13. Speaking of 13 have you guys picked out a name yet? I like the femail naming convention, its fun to talk about the operating system as a femail. Kinda like calling your car a femail name. I know us americans are crazy people. : )

    In all seriousness Thank you for your hard work. I don’t feel like I have to stay with Katya anymore, Lisa might be my new mistress.

  224. Vasco says: - reply

    is there any way to configure the pop-up notification? the ones like pidgin with libnotify?

    they are really annoying, the animation is too fast and should be more discrete. also it has a bug that stop me to be able to close an chrome tab if the tab is under the notification

  225. usr says: - reply

    The 1.2 release looks very well.

    I’m at Mint 11 and I can’t probe Cinnamon, so I have two questions:
    In GNOME 2.32 I have the weather in the clock panel, and also I have many localizations to view Date & Time for different countries.
    ¿Is it possible to show the weather in Cinnamon? ¿And what about the localizations?

    Cheers.

  226. Kirk M says: - reply

    I see on Github that Cinnamon 1.3 is ready to go? I also see that Cinnamon 1.3 is already available in the Fedora 16 repos. So…how about us poor Linux Mint 12 users? ;-)

  227. Daniel says: - reply

    Will Libux Kernel 3.3 also be bundled with the aspm power regression fix? Some of us can’t use mint 12 because of the power regression issue; haven’t been able to try Cinnamon!

    Please put kernel 3.3 in!

  228. Kevin says: - reply

    Thank you. This is excellent – easily, and by some considerable margin, the best current Linux desktop environment. Development appears to be continuing apace and each point release just gets better and better. I have completely switched away from Ubuntu, and had it not been for this, I was seriously considering going back to Windows for my desktop computing needs. That’s how cheesed off I am with vanilla Gnome 3, KDE 4 and Ubuntu’s Unity.

  229. Andy Chow says: - reply

    Amazing! I love you guys. Now I can actually work on my computer! I use a desk at work, because it’s efficient. In ancient China, Greece and Rome, people used desks. In 10,000 years from now, people will still use desks. Smart, efficient people at least. People who work, not play around.

    After 7 years of using Linux, I had to go back to Windows because of Gnome 3 and Unity, which scraped Fedora and Ubuntu. Now I can look forward to going back to freedom.

    Thank you. Mint is #1 for a reason!

  230. Thank you for this job. You got a new fan to you.

  231. Vertexer says: - reply

    Clem, thank you so much for your hard work. I love my desktop once again!
    Everything is looking good, but ( yeah i know) i have a little question:
    The icons on the panels, when you click on them, there’s no visual effect confirming that you just clicked on it. I mean, the icon opens the program that is supposed to open but with out a visual effect.
    Right now it works just “flat”. Any chances of getting some kind of effects for the icons on the panel any time soon?
    I know it has nothing to do with functionality or performance, Cinnamon works just great. Just wanted to see if it is possible to have a sort of “the cherry on top of the cake”.
    Thank you so much again for such an amazing work. Thank you for Cinnamon!

  232. Mark Bokil says: - reply

    Fantastic DE. I was slugging through beta testing Ubuntu 12.04 and after I adjusted Compiz and it corrupted Unity for the nth time I gave up. It broke me. I looked around and found Linux Mint. I installed Cinnamon. I added some applets. All the craziness of Unity Launcher and the poor task switching was over. I started doing all my work on Cinnamon. Really good work. I used to develop Firefox extensions. I am probably going to turn my efforts to writing applets for Cinnamon. I see a couple places where I can add to the functionality. Good stuff. Thank you developers!

  233. erik says: - reply

    How i can set toolbar iconsize?
    I set small-toolbar in gconf-editor but still have big toolbar

  234. shane says: - reply

    when i install awn it works perfect until i restart my laptop when it restarts the screen is blue and and my task bar is gone and the only thing that is on the screen is the applet and i cant figure out how to fix it im running mint 13 maya any help would be appreciated

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